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RaymationStudios
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De-scouted!?!

Posted by RaymationStudios - 1 day ago


I'M SORRY WHAT THE FUCK!?!


Ok, so last night, I wanted to be a friendly chap so I went around and scouted a few people for the art portal, literally just three people, I didn't intend to scout any more people than that just to be safe.


I was reluctant to scout people for a while because I didn't want to lose my art portal privileges but no, apparently the moment I come out of my shell the very thing I was afraid of fucking happens.


Now, no one is gonna see my work, I'm gonna have less motivation to make anything, I have to fucking wait for the chance I get scouted again, just when I was regaining my motivation, just when I started drawing more frequently and was gonna start posting more. I started working on full renders to, not just the halfway finished Pearl NNN drawings.


This is ridiculously unfair! Why do I have suffer the punishment of the people I scout? It should just give me a notification letting me know that people I scouted broke the rules and like give me two more chances. But no, because I don't have the magical ability to detect if someone is an asshole or not, now I have to deal with barely anyone seeing and recognizing my work for a while.


Bullshit, absolute bullshit.


I'm not stopping, I'm gonna keep doing what I do REGARDLESS of what anyone thinks of me or my work, I'll get scouted again and then I'll never scout another person a day in my life until they improve on how unnecessarily strict this system is.


Sorry for seeming a bit hostile here but I just don't think it's fair that apparently all my hard work has less value and is gonna go to waste over some stupid bullshit like this. But whatever, this isn't gonna stop me, all it does is just lower my opinion on this site that I USED to think was perfect. Fuck the scouting system. Please make it less strict.


In the meantime, I'll dump a bunch of unshared art here and see if that does me any good, I'll post a few in the art forums to. I didn't fucking deserve this outcome and I WILL regain the right to have people view and appreciate my work.


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You could have listen very closely what ornery would have to say… i think you scouted the low quality art with no shading or something that was made by a 13 year old.

Could you please link me to the Ornery post in question? I remember scouting artists whom I felt was making quality work and was posting recently. If any of them were too young for the type of art they were making, I was unaware.

@RaymationStudios sure it might have the reason what happens if you get castrated https://ornery.newgrounds.com/news/post/388624

dang dude that's tuff :(

Understatement, It's fucking bullshit. I had such a high view and appreciation for Newgrounds and my ability to be as authentically me a possible but NOPE! Now I have to spend months getting people to see my work again like I had to do 2 years ago.

@RaymationStudios Imean I guess this time we learned our lesson. it was merely a matter of time before some flaw surfaced in the regulating system of the place.

There are A TON of artists here. Look at the art of scouted artists and compare it to your own. 'Right now' it's not at a point that one would feature. (There would be no point in 'having a scouting system' if basically everybody was getting scouted...)

Work on improving your art. Use shadows and highlights to bring out facial features. From what I'm seeing in a preliminary search, your hands, shoulders, knees, ankles... need work as well.

Basically: Improve on facial features and anatomy. Look up references and guides. I'm sure you can regain your scouted status, but only if you put in the work.

To be fair, I've been under the impression that my art was already good enough to at the very least be in the portal because I've seen literal flat color art with little lighting get front-paged just because it's from a well known and popular artist and I've seen other artstyles more focused around simple lighting and anatomy like mine get frontpaged to.

Nonetheless, I'm very aware that there's some work to do before my work is good enough to get front-paged and I do intend to work on my rendering skills specifically. I always felt like it needed a bit more to have the appeal it could potentially have.

Getting de-scouted shook up my resolve and self-esteem for a moment but I appreciate your comment uplifting me and pointing me in the right direction to eventually get better at what I do.

Thank you, I feel a bit more motivated now.

@RaymationStudios I would have to see the piece(s?) in question to comment about the frontpaged art, but I suspect that it told a story or captured the zeitgeist in some way.

One more thing though, that I forgot to mention earlier: Some artists will look at a large part of another artists catalogue before they make their scouting decision, some just look at a small selection. If you upload a ton of old works, any user clicking randomly (or just checking the last 4 uploads) is more likely to see work that doesn't represent your current skill. Uploading a lot may get you more 'attention', but will "not necessarily" earn you 'recognition'... ;)

Oh, and this may also be helpful to you:
https://www.newgrounds.com/collection/330234/guides-tutorials-other-help

Immediately a few that come to mind are:
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/inkhandprint/sploot-2023-reference-sheet
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/mojomontebon/cool-city
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/zeeteem/me-again
(I don't think these are bad, I think all of them are good but my point is I feel like they're in similar leagues to my artstyle quality-wise so I don't fully get what the standard of art being good or not is.)

Also, I'm quite aware of that last point in fact, the unreleased works in question is more recent stuff I've been sitting on that I think does represent my current skillset. XD

But all of that aside, I changed my tactic anyways now that I've calmed down. I'm just gonna hop back on the grind. It may take a while but someday the work will pay off. Until then I should just not stress about it and just be patient and have fun like I did over the past 2 years I was absent from the site.

Again, thanks for reaching out to help! It really means a lot. :)

@RaymationStudios I think I see what you mean in the first two. Especially with the 'Sploot 2023 Reference Sheet', but the anatomy is pretty good on that one and the black bits improve the feeling of depth.
'Cool City' is very atmospheric and there is a feeling of (spacial) depth to the scene.
'Black n Blue' has very 'stylized' hands, but the artist did some great detailing with what is essentially a monochrome image. Great work with the highlights. And the reflected/refracted light around the glasses adds a feeling of 'realness' to the scene. While I like the 'mood' in 'Cool City' of those 3 'Black n Blue' is my favorite from a technical standpoint.

To me, each of those submissions conveyed a 'mood' - admittedly not as strongly in the reference sheet, but that's not what references are for. I'm sorry to say this, but I feel that their works are way more expressive and technical detailed than yours are 'at the moment'.

I don't think your work is "crap", but "it's not there yet" and from my understanding the best way to improve on that is getting some form of 'guidance' (be it some form of "tutorial" or your peers in the Art Forum), followed by _a_lot_ of practice. Because that's how humans are wired.

I can suggest stuff like "draw with pencils for practice", "draw cubes in N-point perspective", "draw a sphere with shadows", but I am not a person who can draw. I know some fundamentals and methods to improve, but you should get input from users who are more 'artists' that 'art critics'. Having gone through such learning processes themselves, they also can point out pitfalls which amateurs and outsiders like me are oblivious about. ;)